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Ankur
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 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: HIV vaccine: myth or reality |
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HIV or human immunodeficiency virus is the cause of the deadly disease AIDS. About 40 million cases of AIDS have been reported worldwide as this epidemic is spreading with alarming proportions.
Amidst such a situation, the development of the vaccine for HIV called as HIV-1 DNA by a research team at AIIMS (All India Institute of Medical Sciences) headed by Dr Pradeep Seth comes as a sign of hope and relief. Though the vaccine is yet to be tested extensively on humans (interestingly, Dr Seth has injected himself with the vaccine to test its toxicity on humans and he suffered no side-effects), the tests on animals have shown positive results.
As of now the clearance is awaited so as to perform clinical trials on humans. It will be a matter of pride for India that we come up with something that the whole world can bank upon. But there is many a slip between the cup and the lip. I hope that the research gets clearance and appropriate funds from the government so that the work could progress smoothly. It is not long before a vaccine for AIDS becomes a reality and saves people from the deadly disease, which is also treated as a social stigma.
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RebelliousOne
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Ankur:
My gutfeel on this issue is that HIV/AIDS is a man-made pathogen that has no cure, at least no cure available to the general public; and if a "cure" should become available, it will cost the taxpayers of the US, and wherever you are, billions of dollars to administer.
More to the point, HIV/AIDS is a fitting disease for the immoral folk among us who tout their 'atlternative lifestyles' as normal and acceptable, but who pass on the costs of treatment of their diseased "lifestyles" to the taxpayers, who have little choice to pay unless they be subject to such charges that they are --phobia to something. If people want to avoid HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, they ought to stop transmitting them; you know, live a more moral life.
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Editor
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The research trials of Dr Seth in with regards to developing a vaccine for dreadly disease AIDS are commendable.
As is the situation around the world, with so many people being infected with AIDS, such a vaccine seems like a light at the end of the tunnel.
| Quote: | RO: More to the point, HIV/AIDS is a fitting disease for the immoral folk among us who tout their 'atlternative lifestyles' as normal and acceptable, but who pass on the costs of treatment of their diseased "lifestyles" to the taxpayers, who have little choice to pay unless they be subject to such charges that they are --phobia to something.
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Apart from sexual(immoral) contact, HIV virus can also be passed from one person to another through blood-to-blood contact.
In addition, infected pregnant women can pass HIV to their babies during pregnancy or delivery, as well as through breast feeding. And these women might have got the virus from their husbands and partners with no fault of their own. And what will you say about the unborn child who has not yet opened his/her eyes in the real world and who gets the infection from the mother. Is it a fitting disease for the little one?
Thus my gutfeel is that a vaccine would do wonders if it comes out in the market and it is really the need of the hour. |
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RebelliousOne
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:13 am Post subject: Innocent Victims |
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| Editor wrote: | The research trials of Dr Seth in with regards to developing a vaccine for dreadly disease AIDS are commendable.
As is the situation around the world, with so many people being infected with AIDS, such a vaccine seems like a light at the end of the tunnel.
| Quote: | RO: More to the point, HIV/AIDS is a fitting disease for the immoral folk among us who tout their 'atlternative lifestyles' as normal and acceptable, but who pass on the costs of treatment of their diseased "lifestyles" to the taxpayers, who have little choice to pay unless they be subject to such charges that they are --phobia to something.
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Apart from sexual(immoral) contact, HIV virus can also be passed from one person to another through blood-to-blood contact.
In addition, infected pregnant women can pass HIV to their babies during pregnancy or delivery, as well as through breast feeding. And these women might have got the virus from their husbands and partners with no fault of their own. And what will you say about the unborn child who has not yet opened his/her eyes in the real world and who gets the infection from the mother. Is it a fitting disease for the little one?
Thus my gutfeel is that a vaccine would do wonders if it comes out in the market and it is really the need of the hour. |
Editor:
The vast majority of people infected with HIV/AIDS in this nation are honosexuals and intravenous-drug users; this does not, however, imply that there are no innocent victims, as you pointed out; indeed, hemophiliacs are another group who also suffer;
nevertheless, these diseases were born out of immoral behavior, and likewise has caused its spread to those innocent victims.
For example, you noted that "... infected pregnant women can pass HIV to their babies...," which is a true-enough statement; but my question would be, how did the mother contract the disease? It could be her own immoral behavior, or that of her sexual partner(s); it could be because she received tainted blood, but the blood was tainted by someone who acted immorally. It all goes back to moral conduct.
Does this mean, then, that I oppose a vaccine that would cure HIV/AIDS? Not in the least; indeed, my gutfeel is all for it; however! -- I would reserve it, first, for the innocent victims, and, second, I'd let God sort out the rest; after all, for the latter group, it is a self-injected disease.
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Dan
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A vaccine for HIV infected AIDs will be a dream come true. AIDS is a deadly killer and like other chronic diseases like diabetes, heart disease, people suffering from AIDS are treated as outcasts in the society.
Though i condemn the immoral behavior due to which the disease spreads, i.e. unsaf sex my gutfeel is that a vaccine would be a safe bet. |
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RebelliousOne
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| Dan wrote: | A vaccine for HIV infected AIDs will be a dream come true. AIDS is a deadly killer and like other chronic diseases like diabetes, heart disease, people suffering from AIDS are treated as outcasts in the society.
Though i condemn the immoral behavior due to which the disease spreads, i.e. unsaf sex my gutfeel is that a vaccine would be a safe bet. |
Dan:
I must, out of necessity, reject any connection, or common thread, between diabetes and heart disease to HIV/AIDS; indeed, people acquire disbetes and heat disease through no fault of their own; while the vast majority fo sufferers of HIV/AIDS (75 percent) are acquired via self injection. Please, let's not try to make the HIV/AIDS infection synonymous with those disease which affect people through no direcdt action of their own.
Bottom line: Up to 75 percent of the HIV/AIDS sufferers caused their own problems with their own immorality. If an antidote is ever invented for HIV/AIDS, it should go for the truly innocent victims of HIV/AIDS, and not for the irresponsible and immatuire spreaders of that disease, or its willing acceptors. Let the guilty perish and the innocent prosper.
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